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Restraining Orders and YOU

Don't Lose Your Rights! Get Due Process.

Your situation -- loss of guns without due process via a ruling by a judge in a divorce proceeding -- sound familiar?

In your shoes, I'd appeal and heavily lean on the due process issue. Due process is to gun-grabbers what a bucket of cold water was to the Wicked Witch of the East.

In most cases, it takes almost no prompting at all to get the BATF to issue a ruling that the PA Act 17 provisions being used to take your guns without due process is in fact considered unconstitutional by the BATF for that very lack of due process. The BATF ruling can then be waved under the nose of a judge in a hearing, in which a judge will get up from the bench and smack the Assistant DA.

Never concede to a "routine" domestic restraining order for any reason, anytime, ever. ALWAYS contest a restraining order of any kind.

Most men learned of a domestic restraining order being filed by a spouse and decide (perhaps on advice of counsel) that it was no big deal.

It is PRECISELY at the time such an order is being filed that a big fight should be mounted, and specifically to contest the need to have any restrictions, let alone the temporary or long-term disbarment of the RKBA, and exactly for the reason that the disbarment of such a fundamental right should only be in respect of an adjudicated criminal act -- and never "as a precaution," and never "for the good of the community" and never even because of an ALLEGATION of harm or threat of harm.

It should always be: "PROVE IT IN A COURT OF LAW FIRST, and then you can send the sheriff around for my guns."

Contesting these domestic orders after they have been filed is always a huge uphill fight -- vs. -- forcing some domestic relations judge to acknowledge on the record that he/she is levying an order to take away a fundamental civil right without any legal basis, THEN drop your appeal in the mail, and it will be a different story.

An analogy is sort of the old "consent to search my car" jazz, absent of which many a fishing expedition would go home with the story about the big one that got away.

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Temporary Restraining OrderS Injunctions

by Robert Marlett

While they come in several names, the two are essentially the same in their effect - they prevent you from doing various things, going various places, or associating with certain people. In common terms, they are presented basically as a restatement of the law... "All this does is say you can't be violent towards (whoever)" but the devil is in the details, as it so often is. In reality, it revokes your rights under the First and Second Amendments, and in most cases under the Fifth, Sixth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments as well. While it directly impairs your rights to freedoms of speech and association, and normally your right to own firearms or other means of defense - the others are hidden treasures for the state prosecutor that you don't hear about at first.

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There is a very serious problem with these orders - they not only lower the burden of proof needed for a criminal conviction, they create a presumption that you are violent - something that would otherwise have to be proven. Many people think these "restraining orders" or "Injunctions for Protection" are nothing of importance because they have no intention of being violent, but the truth is that the exact opposite is true. It is those people who need to prevent the entrance of such an order because they might very well become "violent criminals" as a result of the order whether they are violent or not. It is for that reason that I write this article.

How does it happen - the effect of a TRO or Injunction is to create a presumption that you are a violent criminal. Before one can be issued, a court has to find "substantial likelihood" that you have and/or will engage in criminal acts of violence. If you agree to such a finding - you are forever a violent criminal in the eyes of the court and the law, and your rights will not be restored when the Injunction or restraining order expires.

But it's worse than just the presumption that you have the ability to commit a crime of violence within your nature. Much worse than that is the fact that the entry of such an order against you drastically lowers the burden of proof needed to obtain a conviction should you ever be accused of violating the order. The prosecution would no longer need to prove that a crime was even committed at all - only that you were present and thus had the opportunity. (or in the event that the violation was a simple phone call - your presence need not even be established.) Your presence alone becomes a criminal act... and an easy one to prove, whether you are guilty or not. Your rights to force the prosecution to establish every element of a crime go out the window with the issuance of an injunction...

You have a right to both procedural and substantive due process before such an order can take effect - what that means is simple - 1) procedural due process only means that you have a right to a hearing at which you have the opportunity to speak and be heard, and that you have opportunity prior to that hearing to prepare your defense. 2) substantive due process means that you have the right to make them prove their case before the entry of any order against you. This means, in this context, that they must prove to the court that there is a substantial likelihood that you will commit acts of violence, and you have an opportunity to rebut the evidence raised against you. In the terms of the law, you must be given a meaningful opportunity to present your case before a neutral decision-maker. BUT

When you walk into the courtroom, evidence - generally in the form of a sworn affidavit, has already been presented against you... until and unless you rebut that evidence, the court presumes it to be valid, so you really aren't going before a neutral court... you are walking in with a presumption of guilt against you because of the evidence presented... if the affidavit alleges enough facts to support the issuance of the injunction, IT WILL ISSUE unless you rebut that evidence.

While each state has differing standards, the common denominator is that the person seeking the injunction must prove the substantial likelihood that irreparable harm or injury will occur. If they have stated sufficient facts to get the temporary restraining order beforehand (normally that's you folks find out that an injunction has been applied for in most states) then you have to assume that the same evidence would be considered sufficient to get the injunction. You'd better find some flaw in that affidavit, or the injunction will most likely issue against you. Many states now are using these injunctions to permanently take away your gun rights.

On a few rare occasions, the facts in the affidavit are not sufficient, they just weren't examined by the Court prior to issuing the TRO (Temporary Restraining Order) so the case won't be difficult to defeat most of the time. However, it is still advisable to launch an attack on the contents and integrity of the affidavit as a precaution - primarily to bring that insufficiency to the attention of the Court. Did they state something they couldn't possibly know themselves? Is there hearsay in the affidavit? provable perjury? (the truth doesn't matter - only what can be proven matters in a court room) {Don't kill me here - moral integrity and honesty are very important, albeit rare, in court proceedings - but if they have given sworn testimony to a fact, it is a fact unless and until you prove it false... regardless of what the truth is - it's in the record - it's the truth.}

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Typically, the real issues in an injunction hearing are limited to this: Can the sum of the evidence provided by the parties sustain a claim that a threat of harm exists? Is there "substantial likelihood" that harm will occur if the Court does not intervene?

The Court generally will not allow an all-out attack on the integrity of the person seeking the injunction - they generally will allow such an attack on the person responding to one.

If I were teaching people how to defeat a petition for an injunction (that's not giving legal advice... its teaching) I would have to say the following:

Try to attack the evidence- not the person giving it, when possible. The result is an obvious attack on their personal integrity... but not a personal attack. Since you generally don't know what evidence will be presented against you other than the affidavit - you need to prove that the affidavit is flawed... that should work miracles, because it proves that the affiant is not a trustworthy source of information, and at least to that extent, you'll be allowed generally to attack the credibility of the person seeking the injunction... once every flaw has been probed, I'd even make a comment to that effect... and maybe even seek to strike the affidavit from the record if there is substantial flaws that could merit such a move. The court probably won't strike it - but it will be forced to consider what - if anything - of merit remains intact of the affidavit on which to base the case against you. If you've definitely proven certain flaws, but not really substantial ones - move to strike those lines from the affidavit. Again this forces the Court to consider how much provable truth the affidavit contains, and what has been said simply for its effect but should not be considered.

Your job in responding to a petition for injunction is to 1) prove that no threat of harm exists. 2) prove that even if there appears to be a threat of harm, that there is no substantial likelihood of that harm (or that the Courts involvement would not mitigate that threat) and 3) prove that the evidence presented by the Petitioner is flawed or false. NOTE: Point Number 2 is dangerous ground that will often come back to bite you in the rump... try if at all possible to avoid getting into that territory.

KEY POINTS

* The burden of proving that a threat exists is on the Petitioner.

* It is unlawful to use the injunctive powers of the court strictly for legal strategic positioning.

* One lie by the Petitioner can be evidence of a lack of credibility, and making the point several times before saying so can eliminate the presumption against you when you walked in... resulting in a fair hearing, or even one tilted in your favor.

* If no threat can be proven, no threat exists that merits the court placing undue restrictions on you Constitutional rights to travel, to associate, and to arm or defend yourself.

* Being unresponsive to your spouse's needs, a cheating spouse, or a lousy lover doesn't make you a violent criminal and doesn't merit the entry of a civil order restricting rights that are protected unless and until a criminal conviction is obtained against you.

* Agreeing to the entry of an injunction would create presumptions against you if false allegations are made in the future, and would be a waiver of the full panoply of Constitutional protections that are guaranteed to the accused in criminal proceedings - you simply cannot accept that.

* Agreeing to the entry of an injunction against you would reduce the burden of proof if future false allegations are made against you, forcing the state only to prove opportunity to establish a crime, and not that a crime had even in fact been committed. You simply cannot waive your due process rights in that way.

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The author is not an attorney, and is prohibited by law from offering legal advice. This information is provided strictly from the research and experience of the author, and is offered for its educational value. It is not advice - it's education... so go teach 'em a lesson.

Don't lay down where your gun rights are in jeopardy!
Don't lay down when your gun rights are in jeopardy!

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